Sodomy
(A Study)
DISCLAIMER: I am not endorsing any life style, nor am I condemning any life
style as long as there are no children involved. I am not condemning the Bible,
as I believe it is the book that the Lord gave us to learn of him. Neither am I
saying that it is irrefutable and without error. That would be foolish, in my
opinion.
Having made that clear so that no one can accuse me of any of the above things,
I will proceed.
Concerning homosexuality, which is never mentioned in the Bible except as
translated in the New International Version of the Bible, ONE time. I study
them both side by side.
In essence, from my own study of the scriptures, concerning this subject, a
sodomite is a male prostitute and a whore is a female prostitute. There is no
difference. This word simply means that God forbids a man or woman to
prostitute themselves, especially in the shrines of the gods and goddesses of
the pagan world. This has nothing to do with what we consider homosexual
activity as we define it today.
Definition of Sodomite in Hebrew: A sacred person or a male devotee by
prostitution to licentious idolatry.
sodomite = qadesh, kaw-dashe', Hebrew 6945; from Hebrew 6942 (qadash); a
(quasi) sacred person, i.e.(technical) a (male) devotee (by prostitution) to
licentious idolatry :-sodomite, unclean.
KJV Leviticus 19:29 - Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause
her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of
wickedness.
NIV - Leviticus 19:29 - Do not degrade your daughter by making her a prostitute,
or the land will turn to prostitution and be filled with wickedness.
KJV - Deut.
NIV - Deut.
KJV 1 Kings
NIV 1 Kings 14:24 - There were even male shrine prostitutes in
the land; the people engaged in all the detestable practices of the nations the
LORD had driven out before the Israelites.
KJV 1 Kings
NIV 1 Kings
KJV 1 Kings
NIV 1 Kings
KJV 2 Kings 23:7 - And he brake down the houses of the sodomites,
that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the
grove.
NIV 2 Kings 23:7 - He also tore down the quarters of the male shrine
prostitutes, which were in the temple of the LORD and where women did
weaving for Asherah.
I will address the following scriptures:
Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with
womankind: it is abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he
lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Are the “laws of Moses” written to Christian’s today? Do you believe that
Homosexuals or Lesbians should be put to death?
Here are some thoughts about this before we get into what “Moses’ Law” said or
didn’t say: I know this is long but I have to say this to make a point.
Jesus and Paul spoke of the law as "Moses' Law"
or "your law" or "their law" or "the
law of Moses" or "the law of the Jews" so there must
have been a difference in the Law of God and the Law of Moses or the Jews. This
is the only thing that makes sense because God never changes. I'm not talking
about the Moral laws such as the Ten Commandments. Those laws were not original
with Moses anyway as he borrowed them from the Babylonians. (i.e. "The
Stele of Hamarobi) They are Universal laws. Look it up in the encyclopedia. Nor
was the rite of circumcision original with Moses. You can also find that in the
encyclopedia.
John
John 8:5 - Now Moses in the law commanded us,
that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
John
John
John
Acts
Acts
Acts 25:8 - While he answered for himself, Neither against the law of the Jews, neither against the temple, nor yet
against Caesar, have I offended any thing at all.
Acts 28:23 - And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into
his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading
them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses,
and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.
Romans
Romans
Romans 7:6 - But now we are delivered from the law,
that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of
spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Romans 8:2 - For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me
free from the law of sin and death.
Galatians
Galatians
Galatians
Hebrews 10:1 - For the law having a shadow of good
things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with
those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers
thereunto perfect.
James
1 Tim. 1:9 - Knowing this, that the law is not made
for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the
ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers
of mothers, for manslayers,
Can you take one of the laws of Moses from the Old Testament and say that a
born again child of the New Covenant has to keep that law?
Such as: (Now remember, some of this is talking about grown men being circumcised.
Any takers?)
Genesis 17:23 - And Abraham took Ishmael his son, and all that were born in his
house, and all that were bought with his money, every male among the men of
Abraham's house; and circumcised the flesh of their foreskin in the selfsame
day, as God had said unto him. Genesis 34:15 - But in this will we consent
unto you: If ye will be as we be, that every male of you be circumcised;
Genesis 34:22 - Only herein will the men consent unto us for to dwell with us,
to be one people, if every male among us be circumcised, as they are
circumcised.
Is the following, what you do when you commit a sin? There are hundreds more,
these are just a sample.
Leviticus
Now this is a real “kicker.” Did your wife follow the following laws when your
children were born?
Leviticus 12:1-8 - The LORD said to Moses, [2] "Say to the Israelites: 'A
woman who becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son will be ceremonially
unclean for seven days, just as she is unclean during her monthly period.
[3] On the eighth day the boy is to be circumcised. [4]Then the woman
must wait thirty-three days to be purified from her bleeding. She must
not touch anything sacred or go to the sanctuary until the days of her
purification are over. [5] If she gives birth to a daughter, for two
weeks the woman will be unclean, as during her period. Then she must wait
sixty-six days to be purified from her bleeding. [6] " 'When the days
of her purification for a son or daughter are over, she is to bring to the
priest at the entrance to the Tent of Meeting a year-old lamb for a burnt
offering and a young pigeon or a dove for a sin offering. [7] He shall
offer them before the LORD to make atonement for her, and then she will be
ceremonially clean from her flow of blood. " 'These are the regulations
for the woman who gives birth to a boy or a girl. [8] If she cannot afford
a lamb, she is to bring two doves or two young pigeons, one for a burnt offering
and the other for a sin offering. In this way the priest will make atonement
for her, and she will be clean.' "
Now, I would like to ask you this; Does this sound like something that the God
you know would tell Moses to tell the people who came back from destroying the
towns of the Midianites?
Numbers 31:14-18 - Moses was angry with the officers of the army--the
commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds--who returned from the
battle. [15] "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he
asked them. [16] "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were
the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at
Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD'S people. [17] Now kill all the boys.
And kill every woman who has slept with a man, [18] but save for
yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
Isn’t this nice? They get to keep all the little
girls who are virgins to use for their own selves.
Here’s another: This is all women were to the Jews.
Judges
Exodus 21:1-4 - "These are the laws you are to set before them: [2]
"If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But
in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. [3] If he comes
alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go
with him. [4] If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or
daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the
man shall go free.
Is it okay for us to own slaves or servants?
Or beat them?
Exodus 21:20-21 - "If a man beats his male or female
slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished,
[21] but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two,
since the slave is his property.
Now, this is an interesting idea. If somebody’s ox gores a man or woman, son or
daughter, the ox and the owner of the ox are to be killed. But if the ox gores
one of the slaves or servants, they just give them some money and kill the ox.
Exodus 21:29-32 - [29] If, however, the bull has had the habit of goring and
the owner has been warned but has not kept it penned up and it kills a man or
woman, the bull must be stoned and the owner also must be put to death. [30]
However, if payment is demanded of him, he may redeem his life by paying
whatever is demanded. [31] This law also applies if the bull gores a son or
daughter. [32] If the bull gores a male or female slave, the owner must pay
thirty shekels of silver to the master of the slave, and the bull must be
stoned.
As you know, we could go on all day with these types of scenarios because the
Bible is full of them. So in dealing with Old Testament law, we must take into
account that Paul said that if we are going to keep
even ONE of the Old Testament Laws, we are required BY LAW to keep all of them.
Again, I say that if a person is going to use these Old Testament laws
(including tithing) to prove whether something is wrong or right, then you have
to ask yourself the questions:
Is God a respecter of persons?
Acts 10:34-36 - Then Peter began to speak: "I now
realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism [35] but accepts
men from every nation who fear him and do what is right. [36] You know the
message God sent to the people of
Am I offering the animal sacrifices to atone for my sins? Do I have an altar in
my backyard to offer these sacrifices of doves, lambs, goats, bull and etc.?
When my wife gives birth to a child, is she following the ceremonial laws as
dictated by Moses?
What I’m saying is that if you are going to use the scripture in the Old
Testament laws, then ALL the other laws must be taken into account.
Paul Said:
Galatians 5:3-6 - Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised
(OR ANY OTHER OT LAW) that he is obligated to obey the whole law. [4] You
who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have
fallen away from grace. [5] But by faith we eagerly await through the
Spirit the righteousness for which we hope. [6] For in Christ Jesus neither
circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is
faith expressing itself through love.
James 2:8-11 - If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, "Love your
neighbor as yourself," you are doing right. [9] But if you show
favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. [10] For
whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of
breaking all of it. [11] For he who said, "Do not commit adultery,"
also said, "Do not murder." If you do not commit adultery but do
commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.
So basically, a person cannot use any of the Old Testament Ceremonial laws to
prove a point to someone who is under the New Covenant. So we need to take this
into the New Testament.
NEW TESTAMENT PART II
I am not condoning nor condemning the homosexual orientation. I am approaching
the scriptures as we are admonished so that we might find out what it is really
saying. We should not go to the Bible with preconceived ideas to try and
“PROVE” what we want to believe but for what it is really saying. Every time I
do this, I learn something that I did not know before. As I was dissecting this
scripture, I was amazed at what it is really saying. What I would like to show
in this study is that there is no difference in sin whether a person commits
adultery or tells a lie or steals, and also that just because a person is
homosexual does not make it a sin to be a homosexual anymore than if a person
is a heterosexual.
I’ve already covered the Old Testament definition of Sodomite.
Sodomite = Male Shrine Prostitute
Also you will notice that this in mentioned right
along with the unrighteous, fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, effeminate,
abusers of themselves with mankind, [10] thieves, covetous, drunkards, revilers
and extortioners.
I’m going to take this scripture apart for the meaning of each word and see
what it is really saying.
1 Cor. 6:9-10 - Know ye not that the unrighteous
(wicked; treacherous; specially heathen :- unjust, unrighteous) shall not
inherit the
Be not deceived: neither fornicators, (male
prostitutes, whoremonger) (This was interesting because the word
fornicators here means a male prostitute.)
nor idolaters, (image-worshipper (literal or
figurative) This would include man-worship such as the pope or a preacher.
or adulterers, (a (male) paramour; figurative
apostate :- adulterer.) (Here again the word adulterer means a “male”
paramour. The American Heritage Dictionary describes Paramour as: par·a·mour n.
A lover, especially one in an adulterous relationship.
nor effeminate, (of uncertain affinative.;
soft, i.e. fine (clothing); figurative a catamite :- effeminate, soft.)
This could mean wearing expensive fine clothing or prideful in appearance.
nor abusers (a sodomite (Or male shrine
prostitute) :- abuser of (that defile) self with mankind.) of themselves
with mankind,
Here again, the (abuser) is a male shrine prostitute. And the word (mankind)
also means sodomite or male shrine prostitute.
[10] Nor thieves, (a stealer (literal or
figurative) :- thief)
There are also many thieves in the pulpit.
nor covetous, (holding (desiring) more, i.e.
eager for gain (avaricious, hence a defrauder)
Oh, are any of us guilty of this???
nor drunkards, (a sot :-drunkard.)
Anyone ever get sloppy drunk? Being a male shrine prostitute is on the same
level.
nor revilers, (abusive, i.e. a *blackguard
(see definition below) :- railer, reviler.)
*black·guard n. A thoroughly unprincipled person, a scoundrel. 2. A
foul-mouthed person. To abuse verbally; revile.
We know many and even some so called men of God who would certainly fit this
description.
nor extortioners, (rapacious :- extortion,
ravening)
To obtain from another by coercion or intimidation This would include the many
churches that coerce and intimidate their members to give until they bleed.
So none of the above shall inherit the
Just as we cannot make it a sin to drink a glass of wine, after all, Jesus
turned the water into wine and drank it also. But the key here is "not to
become drunk with wine. So could it be that it is not a sin to be a homosexual
if that person has one person they are faithful to just as in a heterosexual
relationship and as long as they are not abusive or prostitute themselves to
many others?
ROMANS
1:18-32 & 2:1-3 - PART III
The following scripture when taken out of context can be made to mean a lot of
things but when you get down to the nitty gritty of it, it is talking about
people worshiping false gods and sexual RITUALS that are performed during these
ceremonies.. The things done in the temples of the gods and goddesses of
I said that to say this. One reason that this subject came up to me in the
first place is that I knew what the Bible “seemed” to say about women that I
knew was not true. So I set out to see what it was really saying regarding the
subject of homosexuals. It is not because I am trying to prove anything or
defend anyone in my family or etc…there is no one in my blood family that is
homosexual that I know of. I just want the truth and I know for a fact that
without using Biblical Exegesis, you cannot find the truth. It is amazing to me
that people pick and choose what scriptures they want to take “literally” and
what scriptures they want to take “spiritually.” I could get into “many”
subjects along this line but I am trying to stay focused here.
Romans 1:18-29 - For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against
all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in
unrighteousness; [19] Because that which may be known of God is manifest in
them; for God hath shewed it unto them. [20] For the invisible things of him
from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things
that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without
excuse: [21] Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God,
neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish
heart was darkened. [22] Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, [23]
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to
corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
So you can see that the main focus here of this scripture is THE WORSHIP OF
FALSE GODS and GODDESSES, i.e. graven images.
[24] Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts
of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: [25]
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the
creature more than the Creator, (To me, this means that they became
“obsessed” with the body as well as pagan gods.) who is blessed for ever. Amen.
[26] For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even
their women did change the natural use
into that which is against nature:
The key word here is: Change –(to
exchange: - change.) This means that they “changed”
the way they were born. To change something, it had to be something else to
start with. In these sexual fertility rituals in the pagan temples where they
were worshipping the “created” beings, idols, false gods etc.. they were
actually worshipping the creature. They actually worshipped the sexual organs
in some cases.
[27] And likewise also the men, leaving”
the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with
men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence
of their error which was meet.
The key word here: Leaving” - (forsake,
lay aside, leave, let (alone, be, go, have), omit, put (send) away, remit,
suffer, yield up.)This would be much the same as above. They forsook, laid
aside, left their original sexual orientation for the perversion of the pagan
rituals.
Now, there are some very important things to look at in this scripture.
[28] And even as they did not like to retain God
in their knowledge God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do
those things which are not convenient; [29] Being filled with all:
unrighteousness, (adikia, (legal) injustice (properly the quality, by
implication the act); moral wrongfulness (of character, life or act) :-
iniquity, unjust, unrighteousness, wrong.)
fornication, (porneia, harlotry (including
adultery and incest); figurative idolatry:- fornication.)
wickedness, (poneria, depravity, i.e. (special) malice; plural (concrete)
plots, sins :- iniquity, wickedness.)
covetousness, (pleonexia, (by implication) fraudulency, extortion :-
covetous (-ness) practices, greediness.)
maliciousness; (kakia, badness, i.e. (subject) depravity, or (active)
malignity, or (passive) trouble :- evil, malice (-iousness), naughtiness,
wickedness)
full of envy, (phthonos, ill-will (as detraction), i.e. jealousy (spite) :-
envy.)
murder, (phonos, from an obsolete primary pheno (to slay); murder :- murder,
+ be slain with, slaughter.)
debate, (eris, er'-is, of uncertain affinity; a quarrel, i.e. (by
implication) wrangling :- contention, debate, strife, variance.)
deceit, (dolos, (probably meaning to decoy; a trick (bait), i.e. (figurative)
wile :- craft, deceit, guile, subtilty.)
malignity; (kakoetheia, bad character,
i.e. (special) mischievousness :- malignity.)
whisperers, (psithuristes, a secret calumniator :- whisperer.)
[30] Backbiters, (katalalos, talkative against,
i.e. a slanderer :- backbiter.)
haters of God, (theostuges, (stugnetos); hateful
to God, i.e. impious :- hater of God.)
despiteful, (hubristes, an insulter, i.e. maltreater
:- despiteful, injurious.)
proud, (huperephanos - appearing above others
(conspicuous), i.e. (figurative) haughty :- proud.)
boasters, (alazon, al-ad-zone', (vagrancy); braggart
:- boaster.)
inventors of evil things, (epheuretes, a discoverer, i.e. contriver :-
inventorigin)
disobedient to parents, (apeithes, unpersuadable,
i.e. contumacious :- disobedient.)
[31] Without understanding, (asunetos, unintelligent; by implication wicked :- foolish, without
understanding.)
covenant breakers, (asunthetos, properly not agreed, i.e. treacherous to compacts :- covenant-breaker.)
without natural affection, (astorgos, as'-tor-gos, a presumed derivative of
stergo (to cherish affectionately); hard-hearted
towards kindred :- without natural affection.)
This is a very interesting scenario. This
scripture is used to prove that sex with the same person means “without natural
affection” when in reality it means a hard heart towards your own kindred or
family.
implacable, (aspondos, as'-pon-dos, literal without libation (which usually
accompanied a treaty), i.e. (by implication) truceless :- implacable,
truce-breaker.)
unmerciful: (aneleemon, merciless :-
unmerciful.)
[32] Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are
worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Romans 2:1-3 - You, therefore, have no excuse, you
who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other,
you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.
[2] Now we know that God's judgment against those who do such things is based
on truth. [3] So when you, a mere man, pass judgment on them and yet do the
same things, do you think you will escape God's judgment?
My final summary of this would be; there is no way that we
can say that sexual contact between two people of the same sex is how God
created us to be. The natural way that the human male and female are put
together is pretty plain along those lines. I have known several people who
were gay. I have talked to them and questioned them about it in depth. From what
I gather, for two males in particular, they had no choice whatsoever in the
matter.
They had been prayed over, tried to have demons cast out, gone to shrinks, took
male hormones, you name it, they could not change. They told me that it was as
hard for themselves to imagine being with a female, as it would be for me to
imagine being with another female. Both of these young men asked me this
question and it really made me think.
“Why would anyone in their right mind
“choose” this lifestyle? We are condemned, persecuted, laughed at and many
are even murdered because of it. We are human beings who want to be loved and
have someone to love us. We want to have families and homes and be normal but
how is that possible when no one accepts us. We’ve tried to change, we want to
but we can’t!”
Another key here is “do they prostitute themselves” or are
they loyal to one person? Is it any more
wrong for a man to be a prostitute than it is for a woman? They are both
equally wrong. Do they do it just for the thrill of it or is it just a perverse
lust? I can’t judge a person for this. I cannot reject them as friends because
of this. There are some people who are born with both sex organs. What sex are
they? There are some people who are born with their hormones messed up and they
may feel like a female in their emotions but are in a male body. We cannot
judge this.
I’m not talking about a person who just goes out and goes from one person to
another to satisfy his desire for variety. I’m not talking about a man who
wants to have sex with little boys, that’s a pedophile.
I’m talking about that percentage of people who really are born this way and
had no say so in it. A person can choose to not believe this but it doesn’t
mean it’s not true. I do not believe that all those who “think” they are gay
really are. In fact, I believe that there are not nearly as many who claim it.
I believe a child can actually be “trained” to think that this is who they are
because they are molested from a very young age and they are confused. These
are the ones who have been able to change later in life.
I do not think they should be out there parading in the
streets demanding to be accepted any more than heterosexuals are out there
demanding anything. It should all be done in a private way, as it is a private,
personal issue. This is what has gotten so many into trouble.
People are going to believe what they want to believe. It doesn’t matter to me
what the truth is. I want only the truth. I used to be very against homosexuals
and I believe that the Lord has given me a different insight into this subject.
If a person believes that a homosexual is wrong, why not just pray for them
instead of trying to change them and let God do whatever He wants to do in
their lives? What they are doing, even if it were a sin, is not worse than some
of the things the rest of us do. We cannot judge them. Why do people make such
a big deal of it? Now if they are raping people, murdering people, committing
incest, molesting children and other criminal activities, they need to be
turned in to the authorities. However if they are trying their best to serve
God and live a clean life, why are people so worried about it? What’s the big
deal anyway? What people do in their private lives, as long as it doesn’t involve
criminal activities, why not just love them and accept them and if they can
change, then let God take care of it. That’s not something that you can cast
out like a demon of some kind.
Personally, I do not see anything wrong with these people having loving
relationships as long as they are not hurting anyone else or marching in the
streets naked. Those things to me are an abomination and they are only making
fools out of themselves. That’s like the difference in the original women who
fought for the right to vote and the ones who burned their bras in the street.
There have been Homosexual and Lesbian human beings since the dawn of time and
there always will be. Just as there is in the animal kingdom. It’s a hormonal
thing, not a sin. (Unless they are promiscuous or prostitute themselves.)
There is hope for these brothers and sisters of ours. God
loves them and he died for them just as much as he did you and I. At one time,
I was just as homophobic as many people are now. But I believe that God touched
my heart in this area. He’s a big enough God for us all.
This is my opinion and I feel like I have sufficiently backed this up with
scripture, including Greek and Hebrew definitions. I feel like I have drawn a
completely different picture here than what we have been taught. That doesn’t
mean that you have to accept that. You and anyone else can do your own study
and find something completely different. That’s okay too. However, that doesn’t
change the facts that we have all sinned and come short of the glory of God.
ALL OF US! We cannot make it out like the little sins that we all commit are
somewhat different that other sins. They are mostly lumped together.
So I would like to see people to be accepting of others whom
we don’t understand and let God take care of the rest if He wants to. Maybe He
loves and accepts them just the way they are. I want to make it clear that I am
not speaking of criminal offenses such as rape; incest, Pedophilia, murder,
extortion, mental and spiritual abuse and the things such as we are dealing
with on these websites.