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MASON’S OPINIONS ON CULTS &
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About GAC
Here you will get a quick
overview of what GAC is.
False prophecies
that
Goodwin made
In this section, you will find direct
quotes from Goodwin that proved to be false.
Personal
experiences
Personal accounts from former members of
GAC. Don’t read these if you are easily offended.
Audio
Here you can hear Goodwin for yourself! In
one of these sound bytes, Goodwin says that Jesus visited him.
Legal Stuff:
Find out how much Goodwin was worth at his
death; read “Goodwin v. US” and more.
Gospel Assembly
Christian Academy
A NON-ACCREDITED school
Glenn Goodwin
Glenn Goodwin (current pastor of the Des
Moines GAC) calls a child molester a “great man” and more.
Lee Ray
Did you know he
had sex with girls and women in the church? Did you know that he molested
little boys as well?
Misc GAC photos
Photos of the church, the ministers and
more.
Misc. Info
This section contains
info that does not fit
into the other categories.
Newspaper articles
Newspaper articles about GAC
The Covenants
In 1988,
Goodwin made the entire church take 10 “covenants” which you can read here.
Weird stuff!
Yoke of Bondage
One man's story of his
involvement in the Tom Jolly organization. Jolly was later convicted as a
pedophile – and was one of Lloyd Goodwin’s mentors along with others.
William
Sowders
A history of William Sowder's ministry.
(Sowders was another one of Goodwin's mentors.)
Information on
cults
Information and links on destructive
cults, mind control, brainwashing, and more.
Visitor
Comments
See what others think!
Contact info
Contact information for us and Des Moines
GAC
Other web pages
about
Gospel Assembly Churches
Erroneous Goodwin
teachings
This section refutes some of Goodwin's
doctrines.
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Lloyd Goodwin
Misc. Quotes
"...Speaking
lies in hypocrisy. A minister lying behind the pulpit, saying there's three
in the Godhead. He's a liar. And Jesus said all liars will have their part in
the lake of fire. Even a minister that's never committed adultery or
fornication or been drunk -- he'll go to hell. Because he's lying on God,
he's a liar in the pulpit!"
(You can download this sound byte here.)
--From a sermon Lloyd Goodwin gave on March 5, 1994
The following direct quotes are from
a booklet that Gospel Assembly published; this booklet is the text of Lloyd
Goodwin's last sermon, on July 20, 1996. He died from a heart attack after
the sermon. Goodwin's quotes are in red.
Quote from page 20 (here Goodwin is speaking of himself): "God didn't stand a
seducing spirit up here! He stood a 'power of the world to come' behind this
pulpit! Someone to be submitted to! Someone to be respected!" You can
listen to this sound byte here.
Quote from page 27: "And I say to every
preacher on the face of this earth that contradicts and conflicts with the
message that was given to us by Brother William Sowders and the message that
goes over this pulpit - let that preacher be damned. Let him be damned. Any
preacher sitting on this platform that doesn't feel that way, you shouldn't
be up here. You're up here because you're supporting my message, and you're
supporting Brother William Sowders." (Sowders
was Goodwin's mentor.) You can listen to this sound byte here.
Another quote from that night, on page 32: "The devil seduces God's people so
easily, but Brother Goodwin is a watchman on the wall. If you ever stand in
the Kingdom of God, you'll thank God for Brother
Goodwin. You'll thank God for me. You'll thank God for me."
Obviously Goodwin
believed-- and his fellow ministers and followers still believe-- that the
only way to God was through GOODWIN.
The following direct quotes are from Lloyd Goodwin's book "Prophecy
Concerning the Resurrection" published in July 1976. Goodwin's quotes
are in red.
Quote from page 84: "There is only ONE church in a city! If this assembly here is
God's church for this city, then there is not another church in Des Moines
that can put anyone in the grave and have a hope, or an expectancy, of seeing
that individual again in the 'first resurrection' at the return of Christ. I
know that sounds like exclusivism, but do not turn
your hearing aid off... yet... because I just might be right! I might be
right!"
Obviously Goodwin, as
well as the current pastor of the church, Glenn Goodwin, and all the
ministers around the world that support Goodwin's message, DID and DO believe
that their church in Des Moines is God's church for the city. As a result,
they also believe that NO other church in Des Moines can save anyone. Hmmm... Yes, it
does sound like exclusivism to me, Rev. Goodwin. In
fact, in my opinion, it is a CULT.
I was six years old when my parents joined the Gospel
Assembly Church
in Des Moines, Iowa. I can remember countless times
Goodwin harping on the church, telling the church that we were not giving
enough money. Here is another quote from this book (to the best of my
knowledge, Goodwin did not "write" this book, he preached and the
church staff recorded it and compiled it into this book):
Page 121:
"Right now we are going to pray that the Lord will give us a good
offering. That the Lord will touch this offering tonight. Your tithes. Your
offerings. Your pledges. If God has been good to you and put a special sum of
money in your hand, won't you share it with the work of the Lord? Won't you
write a nice check and put it in the offering? Are you going to miss the
'first resurrection' because of the hold that money has on your life? God
forbid! God forbid! I am not going into another discourse tonight, but Jesus
is vitally concerned about how you spend your money."
Jesus is vitally
concerned, eh? No thanks, Rev. Goodwin. If I give my money away, it's going
to be to someone
who REALLY needs it. But thanks for offering me the chance to purchase my
salvation with money.
This is in Lloyd Goodwin's own handwriting.
The following quotes are from the "Gospel of Peace Newsletter,"
issue 10. According the the blurb at the end of
this article, these quotes are taken from a sermon that Goodwin gave on
February 9, 1985.
Quote from page 6: "...you can never stand before an elder, when your case is
being dealt with, and try to lie your way out of it.
You could drop dead like Ananias and Sapphira (two
people in the New Testament). Regardless, you will come forth in the
resurrection of damnation..."
A classic example of
the way that Goodwin ruled by fear. He loved using the Bible to make people afraid
of him, the "man of God." Goodwin taught that the only way to be
saved was to be loyal to him. Imagine being brainwashed into believing this
stuff from the time you were six years old, like I was.
Quote from page 8: "A man of God can only be established by the loyalty that is
manifested on the part of those who serve him."
"Serve" him.
That's what Lloyd Goodwin loved; to be served and obeyed.
Quote from page 14: "Did you know how many Pentecostal preachers in this city and
in other cities are afraid of me? They have no reason to be afraid of me. But
they are afraid of us. They are afraid of this church."
Quote from page 19: "Leadership. Loyalty. You might make a suggestion, but once
leadership speaks, you follow."
Goodwin demanded
UNQUESTIONING obedience from his followers. His teaching was, to even
question him was to question God.
Another quote from page 19: "What does something for God on a permanent basis in the
earth, is when individuals learn how to submit to authority, and in obedience
to authority, God's work advances and prospers in the earth."
Quote from page 25: "Leadership is
everything! Without leadership we have nothing."
Are you beginning to
detect a pattern here?
And this next set of quotes gets the prize! These quotes are taken from a
sermon that Goodwin preached in Canada, about two weeks before he
died, at one of the Gospel Assembly convention services. As Dave Barry would
say, I swear I am not making this up. In fact, I have recently added these
quotes to the audio
section of this website.
"You
notice how calm I am? It's because Friday morning of our May convention (a couple of months earlier) the Lord appeared to me,
and He talked to me. And He told me what my future was, told me what the
future of this fellowship was. And when the Lord talked to me, and one of the
questions I asked Him was, 'how long do I have?' And He said, 'Ten years.' (Yet several weeks later he was
dead.)
I don't have time to play games with anyone any longer. And the Lord told me
that I could not be at peace as long as I was continually threatened by my
staff, or by those that live on my church property. And I knew, I knew then,
that for me to have peace in my heart, I could only surround myself with
individuals that had complete and implicit
confidence in me..."
And a few minutes
later: "See,
I'm not scared any more. I have a calmness. I've saw
the Lord. I've never-- I've saw the Lord one time. And I saw him Friday
morning before our convention started Friday night. And it's made all the
difference in the world with me. I'm not afraid of anybody. I don't care what
anybody says. I don't care what anybody does. I already know what God's going
to do. See, this doesn't bother me any more: I've seen the Lord. I-- I can
tell you how He was dressed. I can tell you how His voice sounds. It may be a
little humorous..."
"...He was wearing a robe when I saw Him. He appeared to me, and he was
dressed in a robe. And it was three colors. It wasn't a solid color, it was laying in folds around His body, all the way
down to His ankles. And-- and it had three colors: a glistening white, a
royal purple, and a deep burgendy. Those were the
three colors that his robe was colored..."
Whew.
Time to get the guys in the white coats, eh?
And this quote, from that same sermon: "I'm going back home after this meeting and take a loyalty
oath of everyone that lives on MY eight acres, and is on my staff. And
anyone that is not completely confident that I'm God's man, and their undying
allegiance and loyalty is to me, will no longer have a postion
on our church staff, or live on our church property."
HIS eight acres? I
thought it belonged to the church.
See, I don't have to make Lloyd Goodwin look like a delusional idiot; all I
have to do is quote him, and he made himself look like an idiot.
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